Survivors PC

[edwin]

Thinking of watching the new BBC Survivors series again and I was thinking how PC it was in regards to weaponry. Only two shotguns to be found in the whole of the Manchester area and no ammunition seems a bit hard to believe. No bows or crossbows either?

Then how many pistols did they refrain from picking up and keeping? 5 I think but my count could be out.

The youths in the country house were a little bit tooled up but the younger ones had A KNIFE not the vast assortment they would have hung round themselves given half a chance which they would have had. Not even a catapult.

Even "kid's" bows and air pistols pointed en masse would deter an aggressor.

Such is the world that the committee wrote the script of the programmes would have us try and believe in.

[Matthew]

Weapons would perhaps be the only commodity that would have any real rarity value in most UK post-apoc senarios and nobody would ever turn their nose up at the chance to build up a stock of weapons.

[edwin]

Weapon carrying would rapidly become the norm but after a bit would be normal and disregarded in normal meetings and life. Who could afford to suffer even a minor wound? With conflict anyway except perhaps personal disputes might have been more lethal.

[northernraider1]

Sorry but the remake was 100% pure garbage of the highest order, Guns portraid as eveil weapons instead of just bloody useful tools, pretty young girls in a PA world jumping into a Range Rover with complete strangers especially ones of different ethnicity, It followed the BBC standard formula for all dramas be they Dr Who, East enders, Casuality, or whatever. Just make sure you have your black dude, asian dude, kid, oldy, nut job and a criminal from a regional city, then call it what you want.

[edwin]

Wouldn't disagree with your summary raider except I sort of abstracted a Survivors story from the debris for myself. Just cars driving along an empty road will do it for me.

There was a valid criticism of the first Survivors with the lower orders in mainly subservient or quirky roles.

[northernraider1]

Feb 28, 2012 14:11:34 GMT edwin said:

Wouldn't disagree with your summary raider except I sort of abstracted a Survivors story from the debris for myself. Just cars driving along an empty road will do it for me.

There was a valid criticism of the first Survivors with the lower orders in mainly subservient or quirky roles.

Oh yes that was the major flaw in the early 70s PA dramas the good guy heros were always either doctors, scientists or pilots all with nice middle class background. Survivors , Doomwatch, Day of the Triffids etc all wonderfully middle class with the working class in the role as sheeple, scroungers or bad guys.

[Matthew]

To be fair British fiction on most levels has hardly been known for its positive portrayal of working class people so I guess post-apoc has just reflected that.

I think what annoyed me the most about the 'remake' of Survivors was that they did not seem to know what they wanted it to be and attempted to combine a conspiracy thriller will a PA survival idea and it just did not work.

It was certainly cast by numbers in terms of the backgrounds of the characters but even that would have been forgiveable if they at least made them interesting.

As it was the only one that had anything even approaching a depth to him was the white working class criminal. The rest were just plain dreary and well meaning.

And it was a bloody shame because they got, at least initially, good viewing figures and with advances in TV production techniques they could have achieved something really special.

[northernraider1]

I did a spot poll on some adult students (7 of em) I have been working with, they have no connection with prepping and survivalism their coursework is on environment sciences.

I asked them to list in order of priority what items they would seek to obtain if a global economic collapse occured one wednesday morning.
1 Rucksack and outdoor clothing
2 Camping gear
3 Food and Water
4 Weapons !!!!!!!!!
5 Transport
6 Access to information on what is happening
7 Transport and fuel
8 Medical supplies
9 Telecoms
10 A place of safety / get home.

I asked " Society collapses and you are walking home along the side of the A1 its cold and raining, A vehicle approachs and it contains two young men one black, one white, both appear to be possibly intoxicated, high or stressed? "

Would you accept a lift off them?
7 replies of NO

I asked " would you remain in the city and try and help others or would you leave the city ASAP and seek people you know and trust?

7 said Leave city ASAP.

So if a bunch of modern trendy you people with conformist left wing tendencies are put into a SURVIVORS situation all instantly become suspicous, cautious and armed survivalists.

But the BBC puts its characters into the happy clappy, diverse, inclusive multi cultural anti gun category straight away !!!!

[edwin]

That was a very interesting result and probably represents the norm. Any chance of carrying on with the idea. Such as putting the proposition to them if they can oicture life one year on and they are scratching a living and are given the choice.

Maybe with compulsion, of joining a purportedly regional or national group with some guarantees of protection but complete loss of autonomy.

Or

Carry on with struggling but form loose relationships with other small groups.

Or

Hide from strangers

Or

Meet strangers with a threatened armed response.

[northernraider1]

Sadly I dont see those little champagne socialists now, they have all gone beck to memmy end deddy in Surbiton and Winersh where they can continue to fight for the prolls over a bottle of Bollinger !!!