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Famine
Apr 10, 2010 18:19:40 GMT
Post by edwin on Apr 10, 2010 18:19:40 GMT
was out on the open kayak yesterday. First attempt at fishing but caught nothing. In a PA world would this be a disaster or or would one's woman have to get all cold and wet collecting shellfish for my tea? (no chance nowadays of course!)
Meals everyday is the reality so we must have a storable staple. Could Ray Mears suggestion of roasted hazel nuts be one? How long could you keep a potato crop going? Not sure that grain is feasible with encroaching wildlife to eat it and all the work involved.
We are in the hungry gap of the year. bet even the deer are thin.
Edwin
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Famine
Apr 11, 2010 5:37:09 GMT
Post by Matthew on Apr 11, 2010 5:37:09 GMT
I would imagine that hunger would be a good teacher Out of interest how were you fishing ? Were you using feathers ?
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Famine
Apr 11, 2010 7:45:09 GMT
Post by edwin on Apr 11, 2010 7:45:09 GMT
Just a handline with a white spoon and mussel bait. I was skirting rocks and weed patches over a sandy bottom hoping for flatfish.
For productivity when mackerel are on I think I should go further out with feathers. maybe when I get rods sorted out I shall trail (troll?) feathers most of the time while hoping for a bass or other with a tasy bait.
I am not any sort of experienced fisherman but hope to become one, in a way at the sort of PA stage of someone coming down here and needing to scratch a living. 'course at the moment we have Asda and Sainsbury where we can forage.
Edwin
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Famine
Apr 11, 2010 8:54:16 GMT
Post by Matthew on Apr 11, 2010 8:54:16 GMT
I think I have mentioned it before but I get to spend most summers in Croatia on the coast and am thinking about getting a Kayak myself, with the idea of fishing as well.
In the past I have done sea fishing and I must confess that using feathers alway got me the best results.
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Famine
Apr 11, 2010 19:44:35 GMT
Post by thrombus on Apr 11, 2010 19:44:35 GMT
Don't forget the use of traps. Low maintainence/easy working. I would recommend investing some time in a bit of shore fishing too, in areas you might be relocating to/using in a PA world. Get to know what you can catch and where.
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Famine
Apr 12, 2010 17:55:19 GMT
Post by Matthew on Apr 12, 2010 17:55:19 GMT
Managed to catch an edition of 'River Cottage' yesterday and it showed the host fishing (netting?) for shrimps in the sea.
They looked very good to eat.
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tq168
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Famine
Apr 12, 2010 20:08:01 GMT
Post by tq168 on Apr 12, 2010 20:08:01 GMT
Myself in a PA world, would use the Trotline method. Set the lines about on Low Tide/1 Hour after Low Tide, then return 1 hour before low tide! Or use Gillnets as above.
Dave
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Famine
Apr 12, 2010 21:18:21 GMT
Post by edwin on Apr 12, 2010 21:18:21 GMT
Myself in a PA world, would use the Trotline method. Set the lines about on Low Tide/1 Hour after Low Tide, then return 1 hour before low tide! Or use Gillnets as above. Dave Saw Ray Mears on telly setting lines using blackthorn thorns as hooks or rather gorges. At present fixed "engines" are banned around Falmouth but in PA situation would be an obvious and hopefully dependable source of food. Fish stocks should recover very quickly afetr THE disaster as they have done round Lundy Island, for example. Edwin
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Famine
Apr 13, 2010 4:34:12 GMT
Post by Matthew on Apr 13, 2010 4:34:12 GMT
I remember seeing that.
I would agree that fish stocks would recover rather quickly and that for survivors could be a very useful source of protein.
I would guess that groups of survivors would be located either on the coast itself or with easy access and such techniques for fishing would become very popular.
If I remember rightly in the second Surivors novel Tom Price ends up working on a fishing boat, at least for a while, with a community settled in the Dover/Folkestone area. As per usual its all portrayed in rather a grim way but I would have thought the life of a fisherman in a PA world might be a rather good one.
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Famine
Apr 13, 2010 9:24:27 GMT
Post by edwin on Apr 13, 2010 9:24:27 GMT
I would have thought the life of a fisherman in a PA world might be a rather good one. But as i said before there is a bit of a trap in finding relatively easy ways of making a living. Small group by the coast with decent woodland could be very well fed with sea food and wild plants and maybe deer and rabbits. However no incentive to develop unless there is a link from the preserved steam railways onto the national network so that fishy things could be sent inland quickly and easily enough to be fresh. My group by the sea will also have manufacturing of potable alchohol and of tea from the Cornish tea growers as trade goods. Perhaps we might just concentrate on tea and perhaps new potatoes. Don't suppose there would be much market for daffodils. Edwin
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